This is a question regarding the meaning(s) of the verb "receive" and its effect on christian doctrine.|
If one actively receives he may say he initiated his own salvation; however, if he passively receives, then he is the subject of salvation.
Jhn 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name.
Lewis Joplin II
||Well, according to my religious beliefs, God gave humans freewill. So we actively receive salvation. (Or not.) We are not passive receptacles. There's an old illustration - Jesus knocking at the door. A person has to open that door. Does that address your question?|
||What is the question? Certainly "receive" is intelligible in both a passive and active sense, though the active sense can be made more explicit with a word like "take." Without treading to heavily on the theological under-pinnings, perhaps there's a sense here that can be better captured in such words as "accept" (or "appeciate," "submit," or "realize," etc.)...., but, again, what is the question?|
Jim, I'm having trouble with your second paragraph. It's a simple statement. Where's the question? And like AdSumADS, I'm puzzled. How about re-stating the proposition in a non-theological way?|